Marcy McShane

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Marcy McShane, a Church staff member, had never experienced physical abuse until she worked for Mike Rinder. “He is vicious and he is a physical abuser,” she says. “He has this vicious, attack, attack-type approach and thing about him. It’s like part of him.”

VIDEO TRANSCRIPT

Mike wasn’t easy to work for. I guess an analogy I can give you that he was like a volcano about to erupt most of the time. He treated his staff like a tyrant. Not a lot of caring or true liking of a staff. It was always, in my view, a pretended, not real, caring for the staff. He was a tyrant, really.

I was squashed into a ball. It was oppressive working for him. It was hard. He didn’t make it like a nice working relationship. It just wasn’t like that.

There would be this vicious bent, a vicious strain in how he communicated. It’s one thing to have a boss correct you, even firmly, about something, but there was this twist, this—I can say it’s a vicious strain that was intertwined in his communication.

He used to frequently fall asleep at the desk. I frequently had to wake him up and tell him “Wake up, we have a deadline” or “We have something to get in” or “There’s something imperative to get done.” He had a habit of falling asleep at the desk, at the job.

I never in my life experienced physical abuse until I worked for Mike. He is vicious and he is a physical abuser. One time he forced me under a desk and then trapped me under the desk, he wouldn’t let me out under the guise of fixing something or doing something. And he trapped me under there and then he was being lewd, like disgustingly lewd. And the more I clamored to get out from under there he wouldn’t let me out. In fact, he called somebody and told them to get a camera so they could take a picture of me under the desk and I was frantic. I didn’t even know like what the heck he was doing. Then another time, I made some simple mistake. And I’m saying simple because what followed was nuts. I miswrote a communication or something. And he came over to me, gripped both my arms, tightly gripped my arms and then started to shake me back with this wild, animal crazed look in his eyes. He was shaking me so hard my head was snapping back and forth and at that point I took my hands to cover my face because I thought he was going to hit me. And then he just pushed me, forced me, threw me into a wall. I, I didn’t even understand what was happening, I, I didn’t even get what warranted such behavior out of him, he, he was just crazed, just crazed.

There was a guy who, named Hans, who again made some error with a video product or an A/V product and Mike picked him up and took him by, like, the neck and held him up against the wall and it took two other guys coming in and telling him, “No, hold on. Stop doing that. Knock it off, Mike.” To get him to let go and let the guy - and this guy was big. But again, another reactive, reaction type and this same crazed, kind of like he’s like not even there kind of thing happened at that time.

He has this vicious, attack, attack-type approach and thing about him. It’s like part of him. I don’t think—I don’t know. I just feel that that is, was his nature. It, it’s like how he is. He’s got, it’s just this streak, this— vicious. Evil. And there’s evilness in it as well. Like he wants to do harm or he wanted to do harm, he wanted to create that effect.